Talk:Guidelines

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Please try to use a direct a link as possible

should read

Please try to use as direct a link as possible

There should not be a line break in

We will grandfather whatever was on the previous mac-on-osx site, but new package uploads should go to CTAN, not here.

Done Joseph Slater 18:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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licences

I would suggest adding a clause asking that people not describe something as "freeware" if it should be listed as "open source"/"free". That is, make clear that the term "freeware" is not appropriate for all freely available software but only for software that is merely freely available.

Otherwise, the licensing information here will quickly become as inaccurate as it has historically been.


Done Joseph Slater 18:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

location

Ask editors to read the blurb at the top of the page (if any) before deciding whether the page is the appropriate place for a new entry.

Done Joseph Slater 18:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

when all roads lead to Rome...

When multiple installation routes are available, do not suggest one of them as the way to install something. Make clear that that is one possible way to install it. For example, don't suggest that Fink (or even "Fink or MacPorts") is the way to install something as this is never true - it is always possible to install such software from source and there are often other OS X packages available.


Done Joseph Slater 18:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


Make sure the main link points to the home/project page for the software and not to the home of a third-party Mac OS X package/binary. That is, include such links when possible, but don't make them the main/sole links.

Done Joseph Slater 18:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

account pages

...personal preferences/advice may be pointed to on your account web page.

Does this mean it is OK to post a link to your personal preferences/advice somewhere off-site on your account web page? Or does it mean it is OK to express your personal views directly on the page itself? I think you mean the latter but the use of 'pointed' - as opposed to 'posted', say - is confusing me somewhat. (If you mean the latter, why not just ask for a link to the off-site page in the first place?) --CFR 23:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I think on the page itself, simply because not everyone has the ability to maintain a website (as I do). Obviously not very clearly stated (probably should have discussed here), but I meant posted, but the getting started may have a compendium of personal preferences links (or a link to a page of personal information). It's clear we need some select-a-size starting points, and this may be the easiest. Some users (ok, 1) already lists preferences in software. I think treating individuals' pages differently should be ok. Please go ahead and help clear this up. Joseph Slater 01:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

See what you think... --CFR 14:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Better, thanks. --Joseph Slater 14:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by select-a-size? Size of download/installation? Or did you mean it more metaphorically?! --CFR 17:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Spelling (Can't resist...)

I love the idea that switching to Welsh would solve the consistency problem. The differences between American and British English pale into insignificance in comparison with the differences between different dialects of Welsh - especially between De (South) and Gog. (Gogledd - North). Moreover, whereas some Welsh dialects would not be considered "standard", neither of these is more "correct" than the other. They are equally "standard" but different in many ways. To complicate things further, written Welsh is so different from spoken Welsh that it has been said that it should be considered a separate language which nobody speaks natively. So you have at least De spoken, De written, Gog. spoken and Gog. written. Presumably the Welsh language wikis must navigate the resulting edit-wars somehow... I'm currently reading an abridged and adapted novel designed for adult learners. It has vocabulary at the bottom of each page. A good proportion of this is actually translating G.C. (North) to D.C. (South) because the novel is set in the North. Or it is translating formal written forms of verbs into their spoken equivalents. (The tense of a form of a verb may differ even if the form is used in both spoken and written Welsh. Or it may be a form that would never be spoken.) The rules for mutations also differ in different dialects and depending on the formality of the context. And I haven't even mentioned Patagonian Welsh... And you're worried about consistency of spelling?! --CFR 03:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not. I just happened to note an edit of yours in British spelling and recalled a major fight over spelling on wikipedia, so I wanted to nip that in the bud. See Labrador Retriever spelling war
You mean I changed just the spelling? What was I thinking? --CFR 16:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
No, you didn't. I just noticed that the spelling in something you wrote was the British spelling, and didn't want someone to pick up on that and get stupid about it. As you know, such capacity abounds.

categories

Should we add something about categories?

If you create a new page, remember to add it to the appropriate category. Category information should always be added at the bottom of the page so that it is easy for other editors to locate it.

  • For a regular page:
[[category:Name of Category]]
  • For a page which might be included in other pages, ensure the category isn't included, too:
<noinclude>[[category:Name of Category]]</noinclude>
  • For a new category, add this to the new category page:
{{#categorytree:Name of New Category|hideroot|mode=pages|depth=10}}
[[category:Parent Category]]

--CFR 16:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

personal page protection

The last line of the Exception bullet regarding advice says: "By locating your advice on a personal page (that you should protect), it's clear whose advice it is." As a user who lacks Administrator privileges (e.g. User or Autoconfirmed User), how does one protect one's user page? --Rowenrye 19:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it's possible. You have no protect tab at the top right? If not, you will have to rely on the ability to "rewind" any damage done by someone else. If it happens, please report them to me and I'll block them. It's been done with spammers. As far as I recall, though, there has been non vandalism.--Joseph Slater 11:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Who is "me"? Also, what does "there has been non vandalism" mean? Thanks. --CFR 13:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
My recollection apparently was bad (or is no longer valid) since the spamming links of yesterday. My "non" was a "no", and it was me that forgot to sign. --Joseph Slater 11:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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